The issue in Libya is gaining so much steam now and is being covered everywhere. Well here is our facebook discussion on the matter. After watching the clip below, a few people had something to say.
Bones opines:
He speaks the truth you know
Aero Max says:
this is a non bias truth in a transparent form... i subscribe to this all the way, those people lack nothing, if nigerianz enjoys half of what libyans are enjoying from their goverment, i am very sure non of us will complain even if they stay for the whole generation.. the funny thing is that even at its worst .we are not doing anything about it.. who gives a damn about DEMOCRACY ? when it cannot deliver basic amenities. ALL we need is A Government that can deliver to its people what their basic needs are. who cares if it is AUTOCRACY or WHATEVER.
Willy says:
Aero I am damn with u...If Nigeria a democratic country where the government is been change every four or five years they dont enjoy up to half of wht the Libyans are enjoying in their country,then they call Gaddafi tyrant. Equatorial Guinea,formerly Spanish Guinea.In that country they make money from oil just like in Kuwaite, the population there is not up to one million,they dont have hospitals there,no good schools,last week my friend that went there on an ong works say they weren't there eggs to buy.their president Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo assumed office 3 august 1979,I am sure the Eu and United States dont know that country exists,but they buy oil from them.
Hans:
I mean what is this business of America to the world? This country is going through a lot already. This man is a man of truth. I sometimes get buttered by his words, because at one point I fall into it. Why is Obama allowing these people to push him. Obama should be smart enough to know to get this statement that Hillary Clinton said and I coauthor " I will not be a secretary of state any more if Obama wins". now you are invading Libya, what for? I was saying on buni the other time that, the people of Libya are very stupid... and I will say it blank here, Qaddafi is trying to unit the whole of Africa and he is moving in the right direction. And this is a treat to the western world. When the conference was held in Ghana, almost a common conclusion came into agreement, until ivory coast opted to send a concern letter to it's allied to before they could do something. What happened? Aint they into tribal war over governance? Until when shall the black man learn. But I am telling you, this is all a aim at Saudi Arabia...but if America wants, they should try and see... it's very sad... but God is our helper... Long Live Africa, Long live Ghana.
Buni says:
HANS, I started nodding my head while reading your post and I continued nodding it till I reached a certain point. Please Sir, how is Ghadaffi trying to unite all Africa and how is that a threat to the Western world? This man has been in power for 42 years and has not united anything. Now that his overthrow is imminent, you tell me he is trying to unite the world?
Buni says:
AEROMAXX, I agree with you. It began an argument yesterday where I told them that it is better for your country to return to military rule. It seems the other side of the fence (civilians) are not better either.
Willy:
Buni I dont think you read African news,thats why you may not know Gaddafi is trying to unite Africa.Thats a threat to the western world because once Africa is unite they will hardly cheat them politicaly and economicaly.
Hans:
Ok. U remember there was an African united conference held in Ghana sometimes ago? He "Qaddafi" and eX President Kuffour of Ghana both co-chaired the conference. Buni...do you know why Ghanaian's was instigated to over throw Kwame Nkrumah? Nkrumah was on the same page. Qaddafi has tried all he could. I know he was been greedy in power..(power drunk).. but Buni, if me and you was living rent free, electricity free, everything almost free.. and at the end of every month, u get some money in your accounts " from monies we made from oil" tell me what would have been your reaction? where did he go wrong? all the invasion in the Arab countries was all a aim at Saudi Arabia.. but believe u me, they dare not try. You heard what President of Russia Vladimir Putin said.. " let them invade them and we will sit and watch. We will not play a part in this game, but when the man America brought to bring peace to the world will be remote controlled to help rebels over throw any government and they live in democratic world, then so be it. But Qaddafi should be strong". When Nkrumah was spending money in other parts of Africa to bring us all together? what happened? where is Ghana now? why is Ghana always calling on the dead man they saw no good in? The Jamaican's are adopting this method " Nkrumah's policies".. and look at their growth rate in just 6yrs? So tell me is the problem here that the man has held power for too long? Buni.... sometimes in life a broad picture is the eyes of the cat, that is why u can only attack it and killing it in a blank spot. Lets learn... this is really sad and who are the people dying? innocent souls. Who started the firing of arms? Is it no these same rebels? why would they call on the western world to send them arms? U see, the foolish man sips from his cup and later spit in it and drink from it again.... you will see what is unfolding now... Long Live Africa.. Long live Ghana. Long Live Nigeria.
Buni:
Wow, niceee HANS. So much knowledge.
Sia:
ewwwwwwwwwww...political discussion. yuk!!!!. Do u guys wanna talk about Shoes now? OMG!!!!!! i saw this nice pair of Louboutin's at Macys, they are totally to die for........LOL, sry guys continue your yab.
Hans:
lol@Adul Okpe is an inspiration too. I like his comments and u know I love politics. Sia please delete ur post.. this is about our nation.. not shoes. Lol
Buni:
But HANS, you know that America is not such a country that will listen to a mere Youtube clip of one who seems to dislike everything American. I think they will do everything to remove him from power.
Hans:
Buni. you I sometimes though I thought Mohammad Abidjan was a dictator, when Americans was pushing people to do what they got to do, what did he do? He told America to come take him out of power... and what did he do? didn't he defeat the demonstrators? in resent times, I heard Hillary Clinton was saying the people of Iran needs freedom.. so what? is that their business. You see now the allied forces are hitting Qaddafi and do you find the pleasant... I wish they loose this. He better call on Russia quick and we will see what next. this is foolishness..
The rest of the discussion will go into comments. Enjoy
I would like to join this discussion, but like the proverbial mosquito in a nudist colony, I am not sure of where to start or begin. What exactly are we arguing here? It would help if we can separate the issues so that we can effectively deal with these complex issues. It is easy to listen to one simple clip on Youtube and use that as your support or anchor for some of your views. But that will be a very lazy approach.
ReplyDeleteI propose that we actually read or study a bit more of the subject in question, so that we can form some more informed opinion on what is actually happening before us here.
So, what are we arguing here? That Gaddafi, the mad dog of the Middle East, be allowed to continue his murderous killings of the Libyan people because Farakkhan thinks its a great idea? In case you don't know, the Nation of Islam, which Minister Farakkhan leads, is in the pockets of Gaddafi and his oil money--so do not be surprised that he would voice this opinion. What you should ask yourself here are: is there any sense in the actions of these Libyan rebels? Is Obama's policy here the wisest? What are the other countries of the world doing with regard to this Gaddafi issue? What may be the likely outcome of present policies etc.
Please let us not reduce this to a simplistic black or white matter. It is not as simple as it is. And for those that are drawing parallels to Nigeria or Ghana, please be informed that Libyan politics is so different from Nigeria's or Ghana's.
Marvin Breaker says:
ReplyDeletethis man can Voice, all i know is anywhere there is oil there u see Americans, they hunt for oil, like we hustle for money, and they will do anything to get it, i mean"anything",TRUST ME!!!
Hans Says:
ReplyDeleteI pardon to tell you that, this is not just about Qaddafi and what he got and not got. You are getting something wrong here... Who started the firing? Has America not tried this long before and failed. Do you hear what China and Russia are saying? Have you forgotten the 3rd world war? Go read about the fall of Dr. Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana and come back. Farrakhan is another spectator like me and you, but when people make sense of any issue, is it not for us all to learn from it? These rebels started a demonstration... and what next? When they were pushed back to stop the demonstration , they started with stones. Tell me which demonstration on earth do get state police involved? I which you will know the scoop of this because it is very sad. Forget about Farrakhan... just tell us your point of view. This man Qaddafi is human like me and you. U don't want to compare Ghana/Nigeria to what? We have a democratic nation, yet what? greedy bastards loot monies and me and u do what? keep sending money back home. " Half a loaf is better than none. I am waiting on your opinion. thanks...
Prince Ugo says:
ReplyDeleteWonderful point Hans Boachie
Hans says:
ReplyDeleteThere are many instances to this. I will not even stress on the USA’s business there in Libya; but it is just too obvious. All I am saying is that, Obama should look at the wider picture? France benefits a lot from Libya’s oil? For all these year they benefited from the oil, didn’t they see Qaddafi was evil, a massacre and all that names they using on him? Why do you think America lost the Sudan war? Because the people later noticed their oil was been looted. Let me stretch back on the affairs now… my brother we are all Africans like I am saying. The point is when the demonstration started who fired guns first? Forget about all this usa policy bro and let’s focus on our African country been brutalized by each other. Usa foreign policy is always a broken alley. Now if they move Qaddafi out? Who will be the next president as they want? You will see…at the end of the day, oil will be the main issue. We all hear it over the news that…the oil has no business in USA invasion, yet gas prices are going up day in day out. Let not be blinded by anything.. Let us look at the picture widely and make our points clear. So now we all understand that the USA owns the world? Fellas USA is making enemies day in day out. It is not even like the days when you travel and they see u holding a USA passport and they bow to you… people look at you and laugh at you… This whole fights in African/Libya is all about someone dissatisfaction and personal interest. Bring your mind to African Tradition when they didn’t know the Bible, people feared to do evil… but now what? Yes… until African learn to do things their own way, like the Chinese and Japanese did… we will remain poor and always be used by our own people with the influence of foreign/ western terminologies rocking behind closed doors and infesting our people with dirt to fight against our own people… please don’t amend states of anybody trying to hate America, because we are all here. But what is wrong is wrong. Look at Afghanistan.. what happened? Now the USA is saying sorry… why? What is wrong for the invasion in the first place.. they have left this country and their people to build their country back… how would they do that? After innocent and knowledgably people killed, school burnt down, human displaced and those who call themselves the government are now sucking their own peoples blood. For how long will it go like this? Tax payers monies been displaced and used for unnecessary things. Why do you think congress and the democrats are mad? I leave it unanswered… May God have mercy on us… Long Live Africa.
I am in tandem with the submission above. What is the benefit of democracy where d basic amenities are lacking? Libyans u v no problem with Gaddafi at all Western world is igniting u people to fight so dt they can come in and get what they v planned for years. So Libyans beware. Nigerians v been practicing Democracy for quite a long time but no security, water, education power n health.
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